Ana Marie Cox, formerly of Crooked Media and longtime host of the "With Friends Like These" podcast, joins Steve Krakauer to talk about the real media bias that exists among the legacy media, Rick Wilson and Bill Kristol and how the Trump Era changed people, how everything has become nationalized, the state of snark (and her time at Wonkette), how to be a great interviewer, the end of "With Friends Like These," science fiction and politics and her new podcast "Space The Nation," whether AMC is a "liberal elite," and more.